The growing pains of Bakersfield blogging - By N.L. Belardes
I just left a portion of this post on my new N.L. Belardes profile blog page on bakersfield.com. What do you think?
The growing pains of Bakersfield blogging - By N.L. Belardes
I had an interesting comment through Bakersfield.com’s profile services, part of which read:
“…Looking forward to seeing how prolific you'll be here at Bakersfield.com"
Recently I was at a local music show. I ran into a guy and mentioned the new profiles, blogging, and audio aspects of Bakersfield.com. He said, “I don’t see the Californian blogs going anywhere. It’s just going to be incestuous,” meaning that perhaps Californian’s blogs might fall within an inclusive group of staff and friends.
Already I have seen people who have criticized the Californian, myself included, use the new profile system for self-promotional and other promotional aims. So I would have to disagree with the incestuous comment.
Dan Pacheco of Bakersfield.com once indicated during a music night at Fishlips in downtown Bakersfield that the Internet is a huge love fest… and such cyber love is give and take. It takes a lot of sharing links to truly help each other’s sites to rise in the realm of Internet rankings.
We’ll see if I use the blogs very much. I look at it this way. I already have a blog engine that works really well. But yes, I am all for helping build an online community. And that means interacting even deeper within the recently termed “Bakosphere” (I already interact within bakotopia.com and MAS).
The Californian staff however is welcome to leave public comments on my Paperback Writer blog. But will they on my turf?
A few have. Some I have battled with, some I haven’t. That’s natural. We can’t always agree with each other.
Although Howard Owens is gone, I didn’t dislike him and we had a few online battles. I figured why not express my opinion and be direct with him at that about my opinions of the dangers of conversation journalism. After all, Howard did try to start a blogger war between me and that dastardly Black Dog.
He deserved my blunt honesty in return for his humorous attempt at blog battles.
The Californian views me in a peculiar light. I’m not always sure how that light shines, but doubt if it is often rosy. Yet, I feel the light on me, watching how I will interact. Sometimes I laugh and wonder if there are Post-Its all over the desks at the Californian, reading, “Stay off nlbelardes.com!”
All I can suggest is that growth begats growing pains. There’s a human element in the unseen faces behind many Bakersfield blogs. There are the unseen faces of the bloggers, those that control some of the blog communities, and those who plan them out, build, and maintain them. People’s feelings get hurt. And that leads to distrust. But when the dust settles, the Californian and myself are both trying to grasp a quickly growing and constantly transforming technology.
Share the blogs, share the comments, and don’t let others think that Bakersfield.com blogs are just an incestuous community, but one of sharing, growing, and building a respectable and diverse online presence within a global community.
The readers of this blog are there.
But will the comments be?
The growing pains of Bakersfield blogging - By N.L. Belardes
I had an interesting comment through Bakersfield.com’s profile services, part of which read:
“…Looking forward to seeing how prolific you'll be here at Bakersfield.com"
Recently I was at a local music show. I ran into a guy and mentioned the new profiles, blogging, and audio aspects of Bakersfield.com. He said, “I don’t see the Californian blogs going anywhere. It’s just going to be incestuous,” meaning that perhaps Californian’s blogs might fall within an inclusive group of staff and friends.
Already I have seen people who have criticized the Californian, myself included, use the new profile system for self-promotional and other promotional aims. So I would have to disagree with the incestuous comment.
Dan Pacheco of Bakersfield.com once indicated during a music night at Fishlips in downtown Bakersfield that the Internet is a huge love fest… and such cyber love is give and take. It takes a lot of sharing links to truly help each other’s sites to rise in the realm of Internet rankings.
We’ll see if I use the blogs very much. I look at it this way. I already have a blog engine that works really well. But yes, I am all for helping build an online community. And that means interacting even deeper within the recently termed “Bakosphere” (I already interact within bakotopia.com and MAS).
The Californian staff however is welcome to leave public comments on my Paperback Writer blog. But will they on my turf?
A few have. Some I have battled with, some I haven’t. That’s natural. We can’t always agree with each other.
Although Howard Owens is gone, I didn’t dislike him and we had a few online battles. I figured why not express my opinion and be direct with him at that about my opinions of the dangers of conversation journalism. After all, Howard did try to start a blogger war between me and that dastardly Black Dog.
He deserved my blunt honesty in return for his humorous attempt at blog battles.
The Californian views me in a peculiar light. I’m not always sure how that light shines, but doubt if it is often rosy. Yet, I feel the light on me, watching how I will interact. Sometimes I laugh and wonder if there are Post-Its all over the desks at the Californian, reading, “Stay off nlbelardes.com!”
All I can suggest is that growth begats growing pains. There’s a human element in the unseen faces behind many Bakersfield blogs. There are the unseen faces of the bloggers, those that control some of the blog communities, and those who plan them out, build, and maintain them. People’s feelings get hurt. And that leads to distrust. But when the dust settles, the Californian and myself are both trying to grasp a quickly growing and constantly transforming technology.
Share the blogs, share the comments, and don’t let others think that Bakersfield.com blogs are just an incestuous community, but one of sharing, growing, and building a respectable and diverse online presence within a global community.
The readers of this blog are there.
But will the comments be?


hmmm...
I would say I am treacherous depending on who I am dealing with but definitely NOT a coward. I would have prefered the term bastardly. You always make me laugh.
What? Howard pulled up stakes and didnt even give us a farewell?
We all have to move forward in our lives, Black Doggy. All the best to H.O.
It would have been a funny war though. I probably would have cried first. I'm way too emotional when attacked by blogger doggies.
Progress is good.
Matt
I posted this over on your profile, but thought I'd share the comment here too.
Regarding the comment about how these other blog engines are created by "distant, impersonal national companies like Google." Just to point out, Blogger was actually created in 1999 by Pyra (which was a very small company in San Francisco) as a way to make online publishing easier. Blogspot came a bit later and was just a way of hosting blogs on either Blogger's servers or another server, but meant that people didn't have to buy a domain name. It wasn't until 2003 and after much tribulation that Blogger was acquired by Google (see Wikipedia entries for Pyra and Blogger for more info). This is a similar story to other blog software engines such as Movable Type and Greymatter.
I know all of this because I started using Blogger in 2001 for my own site. If this (bakersfield.com) system was around back then, I still don't know if I would have chosen to use it because it is very localized and a subset of another entity that might host my words and images, but it doesn't allow me the freedom to create my own complete identity out there on the internet.
Yeah, I read your post. You have a good and valid point. Blogs have always been free. And local bloggers had already started networking and collecting into groups. It was happening without the bakersfield.com/bakotopia blogs. My site being an example of that. I wonder how the online community would look had I come around a year earlier... you never know. I think the competition to gain cyber territory, and the ignoring and putting down of global blogs is all very interesting, competitive and even helpful to growth...
nlbelardes.com can only gain from what's going on... more readers will peruse my sites without me even having to flyer the city, just because the media engine is hard at work.
And that's because as I strategically write topics, new local circles of people will find me.
For instance, on Google, my story on Stan Ellis is currently ranked #4.
Too bad Stan Ellis didn't win. Or did he? Maybe more people will come to the Jam games because his name was out there (ANd because Harrick is coach). Yet, with the Bakersfield Jam affiliation he has, people are still sure to search his name...
I know Bakersfield.com wants to dominate the blog waves. I know they want their arms around the entire local online community. I'm not dumb. I just wish as business people they would admit it. No harm in that.
And If I am to use their community services, they should use mine, because I offer a community service with my blogging.
Like I said, they may have lots of Post-Its used up over there...
Calm down pouty face..
Like "I" said, progress is goooood...ESPECIALLY for Bakersfield.
Mijo, you're growing too! Mira mira!!
Ahem...By the way, visit www.BAKOTOPIA.com for all of your Bako needs!
Matt
Pouty face? You corporate Mento boy I oughtta... hahaha...
There's no pouting. There's a truth in what I type. No malice intended.
I think you're pouting because you missed Cortnie at the latest Dalloways gig...
heh.
Oh, there ya go...You had to play the Cortnie card, eh?? Not christian of you.....Hehehee.
It's about innovation not domination..
And a nice job, of course...
;-)
Ah, Matt, once again you misinterpret me and condescend just a little bit.
Innovative, yes. An innovative business. You're acting like it's just for this great cultural online experience. Nope. It's online cultural growth but business related. Otherwise, Participata would be a free engine and not one meant to sell. If it were shareware, it would be distributed around the world for communities to build islands of online growth that could pull from the blogger.coms of the universe, for free!
Interesting to think of this: Spud indicated that folks should pull away from blogger.com and into a community-driven blog site. Yet, blogger.com is owned by google isn't it?
Why isn't Spud complaining about Google?
Bakersfield.com's online venture is about forming communities that media can market to, that media business can sell ads to, and build credibility from so they can sell Participata to other entities, etc...
And that's not a bad thing. That's smart business.
There's no pouting, just the reality that business is not a word that should be excluded from the reality of bakersfield.com's online community-building campaign...
With that said, I hope others from the newspaper comment on my site, rather than just asking me to be prolific on Bakersfield.com. That's my original point: share the experience. No need to condescend and call me a pouter (I know you were just joking).
Think of your own music experiences. You're the better man I guess. You show up to lots of shows and a lot of those people don't support you. Eventually I would get tired of that. But not yet. I enjoy music and theatre and art too much to not enjoy it just because the cross support isn't there... And I will read Bakersfield.com even if the cross support isn't there.
Yet, the Bakersfield online experience is not just about Bakersfield.com.
There's a lot more going on, and it's not going away any time soon.
Live in blog harmony.
Oh yeah!
WQoo!
Oh, the humanity...
Why, Nick...why???
JK,
Matt
hehe.
It's all love... critical analysis helps get through growing pains.
i need someone to come over to my house and show me how to link to you all. i like you guys, i do. just don't know code one bit.
my puppy is having a nightmare. have to go.
If there are Post-its being distributed...
The Post-Its was a joke. I had a manager once who was obsessed with Post-Its. I think had the entire Baskin-Robbins 31 flavors of them in varying sizes that she used as her means of conversation and enlightenment with her staff...
It was certainly my strategy to have bakersfield.com dominate the local online world. That's why I pushed for the Bakotopia platform to become the profile engine for Bakersfield.com. The idea wasn't even a gleam in Dan's eye when I arrived.
As far back as 1995 when I launched East County Online in San Diego, I saw the potential for a newspaper Web site to be the hub of online community. The newspaper site should be the #1 information source for the community it serves, the first place people think to come when they want to know something or comment on something.
In Ventura, when I ran that site, we were one of the first newspaper sites to make blogs available to non-staff members (anybody in the community who asked and convinced they were serious about blogging) and one of the first to add comments to stories. It was our comments on stories experiment that convinced me we couldn't get serious about an open, community platform without instituting profiles. Profiles add a stronger sense of engagement and help limit bad actors (the racists, the idiots and the trolls).
Engagement also helps drive traffic and increase visitor frequency (sometimes called "stickiness"). In the end, it's all about revenue and like most newspaper.coms, Bakersfield.com needs to massively grow its traffic numbers (while B.com is the largest site in Kern County (probably 100 times your traffic, N.L.), it garners only a fraction of the potential audience).
Of course, I also believe that a robust newspaper.com site is also what is best for the community. Sure, it's a business strategy, but it's also a community service strategy. I got into the newspaper game because I believe in community. I believe a better society is a civil society that is engaged, informed and filled with people ready, willing and able to help their fellow community members. Newspapers have always been the glue that holds communities together and I want to see that same sense of civic responsibility translated to the Web. I see nothing contradictory about running a business for profitability and for community. A good business should be able to do both, and be better off in both regards by doing both well.
And I'm still in Bakersfield. For now.
howardowens.com
Damn, I wish I would have found this site a lot sooner. It seems I always miss the good stuff. This whole lil' underground blogging feud. It's cute. All I know is I enjoy nlbelardes.com Some of the bloggers I found from this site crack me up and let me know I am somewhat normal... that or there are a lot of weird people out there just like me? hahha I also enjoy bakotopia.com There, I have found and listened to some great bands which I would have NEVER heard about if it weren't for bakotopia.com ......which I would have NEVER heard of if I hadn't read about it on nlbelardes.com ......... It is all about community and support. I guess. Did I make that up just now or did I steal that line from someone? LOL *scratches head in confusion. ...... Ok, so I confuse easy, but the truth as I know it is this.... If it weren't for nlbelardes, I would have never found bakotopia... etc etc. If it weren't for bakotopia I would have never found some of Bakersfield's greatest bands. etc, etc... MAS magazine is next on my list to obsess over... oops I mean... to check out!
That was a great comment, Howard. Thanks for posting. I think community and business can fuse too...
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