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Panda and the Bakersfield progressive punk movement revealed - By N.L. Belardes

I had been writing to Bakersfield band, Loser Life recently after they posted on my site, “Go to a real punk show: But don't write us good reviews, because then people would think we sound like Throatshot or some other bootleg band.”

My first reaction was to laugh at the arrogance and silliness of such a statement. Here we have Bakersfield musicians who believe their music is more ‘real’ than another band’s music.

Why?

I dug further and found the statement reflects a group of punk bands who are all friends: the Pine, Lord Galvar, Loser Life, The Hips, The Black Jerks, Saboteur, the Neon Nazis, etc., and the record store which is their ground zero, Going Underground Records. Such bands form part of a local punk movement who consider their music more honest to the realm of punk than let’s say more mainstream sounds like, The Filthies. And they claim to be more honest to a realm of musical expression than a band like Throatshot, who they called a ‘bootleg band’.

What is a bootleg band?

Perhaps to Panda from Loser life, merely bands who seek commercialism. Guys like Panda go by different names, tour around the country, or while in Bakersfield, perform at houses or at Munoz gym and consider themselves progressive punks. Panda, who recently egged me on to attend their shows and write about them, claimed Loser Life does not want to be a part of any mainstream compilation, podcast, etc.

I think Panda and I agreed to disagree, but we had a good online conversation nonetheless.

Trying to get me riled, Panda accused me of being some big fan of Jerry’s Pizza and the Jerry’s Pizza bubble. I don’t think the Jerry’s Pizza crowd would agree with that statement. And I don’t think Panda really believed his own statement. He just wanted to get under my skin and I played along. He should know I barely feel welcome in Jerry’s Pizza’s front door. As I mentioned in a recent blog comment: “The Kerouac of Kmart looks at me out of the corner of his eye…”

And for good reason. I came down hard on Nate Berg and Jerry’s Pizza, being informed by some within Panda’s circle about Berg’s wrongdoings, which I stood against. For the record, the Kerouac of Kmart and Berg are best of friends. Berg has since gotten in trouble and reformed his ways. So he says. So I give Berg the benefit of the doubt. Though he still peers at me out of the corner of one eye too.

In the end, though I am likely distrusted, I have been shown appreciation by Berg for my dastardly writings, which gave him some good PR in the Bakersfield music scene.

So why the harsh words from Panda? To get me to go to a show? To display that there is music schisms in Bakersfield. Perhaps. Yes, really there are local music schisms. Bakersfield has pockets of various punks and punk bands who don’t speak to each other, who are rivals, or who just exist and operate in what seems like distant universes. And that doesn’t just include punk bands. Just the other day Matt Munoz said, “There are areas we stay out of and other bands stay out of.” It’s kind of like territories.


Loser Life at undisclosed location
Image by unknown photographer

I don’t think you would see Mento Buru perform at Munoz Gym. Except maybe back at their inception—nearly 20 years ago. I think back in the days of Bam Bams, bands would have loved another venue no matter if it were performing in a boxing rink like many hardcore punk bands do over at Munoz Gym.

But there is crossover, and people like me try to cover shows from various segments of Bakersfield music.

Personally, I just look at local hardcore punk music as another form of expression from artists who believe in what they’re doing. I enjoy the hard progressive punk sounds of a band like Loser Life and the Neon Nazis, but definitely don’t think their brand of punk is any more valid than the 28s, The Filthies, Dirty Spanglish, or Lost Ocean. It’s just different genres within a genre the mainstream now rubs noses with. Kind of like Chicano Literature is another form of literary genre within literature.

Is one form more valid than another? No.

But some artists don’t believe other forms of art are as valid as their own. And so guys like Panda speak out, seem arrogant, but really want to get across that they’re confident they are part of an important movement to their genre. And that’s what I respect: people can’t deny the progressive punk movement exists.

All artists should want to be important to their genre. And that includes a band like Throatshot who creates a different style of music for an audience with different tastes.

But then there’s a guy like Matt Munoz. Sure, his band Mento Buru would likely not perform at Munoz Gym these days, but I bet Matt would go see Loser Life perform. Some people forget that Matt was a punk back in the day like Jeremy from local Bakersfield band, Active Ingrediants. They both just dress a little different now. No need to spike the hair. And a lot of local punks don’t have the rugged leather punk look.

Recently the guitarist of Loser Life wrote about punk fashion:


It features hair cropped to a fuzz and dyed startling, unnatural colors: often very pale yellow, sometimes red, green, orange or lavender. Faces are powdered pasty white, with sooty eyes and heavy lipstick. In clothing, red, black and white are the favorite colors. Punks wear black leather jackets and jeans decorated with metal studs and superfluous zippers; T-shirts printed with vulgar words and violent and/or pornographic pictures -- often images of rape and murder. Artificially torn and soiled clothing, held together with outsize safety pins, exposed areas of pale, unhealthy flesh, which are often bruised and scratched. One favorite accessory is the dog or bicycle chain, which might be pulled tight around the neck or used to fasten one leg to the other. Punk chicks might also wear this costume, or they might vary it with hot pants, side-slit skirts, tight angora sweaters and spike-heeled sandals; their boyfriends favor heavy "shit-kicker" boots.

This is what real life punks usually wear.


I asked Panda to define the punk movement he is a part of and which bands in Bakersfield make up such a movement. I had been calling it ‘purist punk’ up until his letter. He corrected me...

It's hard to define a punk movement. It's really just a bunch of young adults and kids who don't fall victim to the fashion culture the media portrays punk/emo/hardcore to be. Not trying to jump on festivals like Ozzfest, Warped Tour, and other corporate get-togethers that exploit the innocence and true rebellion of punk, these bands play music and invest in something that only generates an intrinsic feeling that can only be created within. Making money is completely irrelevant. Making gas money from one place to the other is all that really matters.

Also, what is going on in Bakersfield isn't going on anywhere else in the United States or the world. A nostalgic, collection of 70's, 80s, and 90's punk is being re-innovated by a handful of bands. For instance, in “Maximum Rock and Roll”, Hips got top 10 bands of the year. This international magazine has carried punk culture on their shoulders for almost two decades. To be extolled by such a credited magazine is very rewarding and complementary. This is only a start though.

Bands like The Pine, which has traveled all over the world, released handful of LPs, and has a huge international following, ironically they only have a local fan base of 10-15 people. Other bands like Neon Nazis, Black Jerks, Loser Life, Lord Galvar, etc. have released 7"s, demos, and tapes and continue to build the movement from the ground up.

Calling it a "purist punk" seems a little irrelevant. It's just punk rock progressing. Even though it seems a little contradicting to call the movement PROGRESSIVE PUNK because the bands are using the same formulas past musicians used 10,20,30 years ago, it's the best word for it. This has been the case since the beginning of music, but the bands from Bakersfield punk scene seem to do it right.

The Blackboard always shows off DOWNTOWN RECORDS and Gigantic, but for some reason always misses the most active record store in the community: Going Underground Records. Ronald has been pressing vinyl for almost 2 years now, has been putting on shows for almost 10 years and has kept the scene alive by sacrificing a lavish lifestyle for the profession that he loves: selling punk records to 13-year-old kids who are fascinated with alternative lifestyles. Such kids realize there is more to music then the spoon-fed crap that society eats.

It's not that this movement needs attention or the bands are upset about the lack of a local fan base, because that's not the case at all. In fact, when 10 kids come to a show, it's exciting. It's better to have 10 kids who believe and live this lifestyle, than 50-60 kids who used to play football and want to imitate everything Davey Havok does. But this movement is definitely worth watching because it's just begun. And a whole new bar has been raised for progressive punk bands to come.


I dig Panda. He makes fun of bimbos on myspace in a revealing display of skin, and talks punk history in the making with an attitude-filled excitement for both music and people.

I’ve been listening to progressive punk bands like the Hips, Neon Nazis and Black Jerks for a while now, whether in music handed to me, at shows, or on myspace.com (I have been listening to the Hips almost everyday for more than a year). And I can definitely say that such music is punk pure to its hardcore guitar strings; and that's something progressively Bakersfield punk, and history in the making…

  1. Anonymous Anonymous | 9:32 PM |  

    Good schtuff! Going Underground is a great store worthy of our hard earned punk rock loving duckets! Support the indie stores!!

    Matt

  2. Anonymous Anonymous | 11:05 PM |  

    panda's are bumbling cretins. coyotes are wise... only coyotes know punk.

  3. Blogger Dobbler | 11:07 PM |  

    I believe this to be a mainly sarcastic piece offered up by the Weasel himself... Mainly in gest, because that's who he is. This write up appeared in a Maximum Rock n Roll zine, quite a few years back.

    I wonder, what does Panda think of this?

    Ben (Weasel) Fosters:

    YOU LOOK LIKE A DORK:

    In the past three months, Maximum Rock n Roll's circulation has doubled. Because of this, a lot of you yo-yo's reading this column are newcomers and probably not aware of my feelings about the current fashion trends in punk rock. Even the people who HAVE been reading my columns like good little doobies apparently haven't been taking me seriously because they're still dressing like complete and total dorks.

    I suggest you pay close attention to what I'm about to tell you because it could very well change your life. Without any further hoopla, I present THE OFFICIAL PUNK ROCK DRESS CODE.

    1. Baseball caps are nice, I own a total of five baseball caps myself and I often wear my Cubs cap or my USA: AMERICAN AND PROUD cap when I go out to pick up the mail or stock up on Gatorade for the weekend. But I would no more wear a ball cap to a gig than I would a fez. Ball caps have no fucking place in punk rock (though the sport of baseball itself has a very important place in punk rock - I'll get to that some other time). So from here on in, anyone who wears a ball cap to a gig is a fucking jerk.

    2. Baggy shorts have no place in punk rock. Baggy shorts are a product of the hip hop scene and it's there that they should remain. Nobody wants to see your turd-crusted butt crack and your piss-stained skivvies. Nobody is impressed by that stupid goddamn chain on your wallet hanging down five feet like a pair of mittens your mother clipped to your parka. If you forget to bring this column with you to your next gig after you've clipped it neatly from these pages, just remember this: Baggy pants=DORK. NO EXCEPTIONS! (I also have strong feelings about baggy t-shirts. Baggy t-shirt wearers, however, are NOT necessarily dorks, because often times they have no choice in the matter; too many bands have succumbed to the pressure to only stock XL t-shirts in their van, thus ensuring that the well- meaning punks will end up LOOKING like dorks. FUCK any band who doesn't sell LARGE t-shirts as well as [or better yet, instead of] XL t-shirts).

    3. Backpacks. Backpacks are for school or hiking trips. They are not for gigs. Punk rock shows do not generally take place in the uncharted wilderness; there is no need for a backpack. They are aesthetically unpleasing, but worse, there is no valid PRACTICAL reason for wearing a backpack to a show; anything that can't fit into the pockets of your leather jacket is most likely unnecessary anyway. Which brings me to the most important segment of the PUNK ROCK DRESSCODE: what you SHOULD wear.

    First of all, and most important is if you think you're a punk and you don't own a leather jacket, you're not a punk. The whiniest of you are thinking to yourselves, WELL I DON'T CARE, I DON'T WANNA BE CLASSIFIED AS A PUNK ANYWAY. Shut up and go home. Real punks wear real leather jackets. Real punks wear real leather jackets WITHOUT stupid spikes or studs or patches or paintings or stickers or band names plastered all over them. If you're a punk, your leather jacket is adorned only by a few tastefully placed buttons on the lapels. Since we have to take climate into account, you can't be expected to wear your leather jacket EVERY time you go to a gig. But if you don't wear your leather jacket at least 65% of the time when you go out, you're no punk.

    Secondly, footwear is more important than you may think. If you wear Doc Martens, you're a sucker. ANY other kind of boot is acceptable. As far as sneakers go, there is one and only one acceptable brand and that is Chuck Taylor Converse All-Star hi-tops. Now, I know you already know that, but what you don't know is that punks DO NOT wear red Converse, Christmas Converse, plaid Converse or any kind of Converse except for black. Uh, that is until recently. After communicating with Stevie of the now defunct Devil Dogs AND learning that Samiam gets paid to wear black Chuck Taylors at least 50% of their onstage time, I've come to the realization that black C.T.'s have been co- opted by the mainstream and are now utterly unacceptable. I KNOW what you are thinking. You're thinking, BUT BUT BUT, ALL SORTS OF MAINSTREAM PEOPLE WEAR LEATHER JACKETS AND YOU SAID LEATHER JACKETS ARE THE NUMBER ONE PRIORITY OF THE PUNK ROCK DRESS CODE. Fuck you, I know what I said. The point is, leather jackets are not a SYMBOL of MAINSTREAM ALTERNATIVE/PUNK. Black C.T.'s ARE.

    Because this is such a recent development, there will be a grace period of three months from the publication of this column during which you will not be considered a total fucking twit if spotted sporting black C.T.'s(e.d. your time is up). But after that three months, your C.T.'s should be white. No other colors, no funky laces or writing on the shoes, just plain white. Don't even try to argue about it because I've gone over every argument in my own head.
    There is no other way.

    You already know that baggy pants are for the birds. Aside from that, there's a decent amount of leeway in the PUNK ROCK DRESS CODE as far as pants go, though you're really better off sticking with blue or black jeans (LEVI's ONLY! NO GAP, WRANGLER, TOUGHSKINS, JORDACHE, SERGIO or whatever the fuck else you might find).

    And though you can wear just about any jacket during the 35% of the time when you're not sporting your nifty leather, UNDER NO CIRCUMSTANCES should a punk be seen wearing a gas station jacket. Gas station jackets are for guys with 20/20 vision who wear glasses anyway to impress the dimwitted emo chicks. The gas station jacket is the 90's version of the Nehru jacket and years from now, when you idiots look back at photos of yourselves in 1995 because your snot nosed kids asked you if you ever did anything besides selling insurance, you will cringe.

    That's it. For the one dumb fucker in Hungary who's sharpening up his angry letter pencil at this very moment, lighten up. My PUNK ROCK DRESS CODE is only wishful thinking(though those of you who adhere to it will thank me later).

    And lemme tell you something else about punks, punk. IF YOU DON'T THINK THE RAMONES WERE THE GREATEST BAND TO EVER WALK THE EARTH, YOU ARE NOT A PUNK, YOU ARE NOT EVEN FUCKING CLOSE. YOU HAVE NO BUSINESS BEING IN A BAND, DOING A FANZINE, OR SHOWING YOUR SORRY FACE AT A GIG. IF YOU PLACE ANY BAND ABOVE THE RAMONES, YOU ARE AN IDIOT, AND I WILL BE BUYING INSURANCE FROM YOU COME JULY.

    -BEN WEASEL-

    Now Panda comes across as a well informed individual in regards to his "almighty punk awareness", as most punk biggots do.

    All the hyping of the Going Underground Records crew and their strive to be "more honest"??? Is in fact just hype. No one can or should place such a label on themselves as there are always too many differing opinions, to lend it any validity. To be proud of yourself is one thing, to be arrogant, is nothing more than well, arrogant... Even if you're being totally honest.

    I'm not saying that this crew is not legite in any sense of the word. I enjoy the living shit out of a lot of the material that I've heard the last couple of years from these mentioned bands. I just hate it when a fresh face arrives with the idea that they have come up with a whole new twist on a dead ridden subject. Recent style, who's the latest sell-out, who's more authentic, who's doing something different, etc...

    Believe me, I tried it once quite a few years ago, and can still taste the egg on my face from time to time.

    And we wonder why there is no unity in the punk scene... It's too full of jokesters thinking they're the only ones carrying the TRUE torch.

    Kind of funny reading this and reminiscing at the same time.

    This all reminds me of when Jeremy from Active Ingredients wrote an artcile in whatever zine it was, and mentioning who the only good punk bands in Bakersfield were... Ironically, those mentioned were the ones who played to the same wanna-be Christian crowd that his band had been playing to.

    Who knows, maybe we did the same thing a couple years back when 3CN and The Filthies were the two punk bands packing em in.

    I hope not.

  4. Anonymous Panda | 2:02 AM |  

    Hi, this is Panda. If anyone wants to contact me, my screen name is HIRAX STEVE.

    Dobbler, you're wrong. Deal with it.

    -
    Panda

  5. Anonymous Anonymous | 2:21 AM |  

    i hate when people try to examine "punk". they all think they are clever and that they understand youth culture.
    you are a fool.

  6. Blogger n.l. | 7:21 AM |  

    Who's the fool? Me, Heath or both? I think I was fair down the middle, and I believe all culture should be examined... Thanks for the comment, Matt. Going Underground Records does do a lot for the music scene not just in Bakersfield... Rnld has a hefy online presence.

  7. Blogger dw | 7:58 AM |  

    It's out for rental..."NEW YORK DOLL"...great movie!!!

  8. Anonymous RNLD | 8:50 AM |  

    REAL PUNX DONT WEAR ANY CLOTHES


    RNLD/

  9. Anonymous RNLD | 8:58 AM |  

    Also!

    I cannot speak for Panda , But i do not think the "Going Underground" bands are the only bands that matter in town .




    Quick Fact: Loser Life , Hips Have both Made Top 10 In MRR . That says alot right there though .


    Lastly:
    Mento B. , Filthies are doing their thing and thats great . It would be cool if more of these " punk /diy bands" would support my store more though instead of the Valley Plaza .

  10. Blogger n.l. | 9:39 AM |  

    Go Rnld!!

  11. Blogger Dobbler | 9:47 AM |  

    Oops, sorry, I just threw up in my mouth.

    I'm wrong about what?

    Anyways, I'm going to retreat to San Diego for a few days. Hopefully it's all figured out by then...

    Somehow I doubt it.

  12. Anonymous Anonymous | 9:47 AM |  

    punks? what is a punk? but just a bunch of losers that have nothing to do, no job, no goal but to whine about somthing. No music is more real than any of form of music. Just cuase you dont like it dosent mean its not real, I garuntee they couldnt write a pop song if thier life depended on it or an American Indian song, or celtic song and so on... grow up.

    a local musician

  13. Anonymous Anonymous | 9:52 AM |  

    Rent "We Jam Econo: The Story of The Minutemen."

    That's all...out.

    Matt

  14. Blogger n.l. | 10:20 AM |  

    Heath, your damn band better not break up. You're in denial of the IN-Denials.

  15. Blogger n.l. | 10:20 AM |  

    I need to support local music stores better too. I'm guilty.

  16. Anonymous RNLD | 10:41 AM |  

    "All the hyping of the Going Underground Records crew and their strive to be "more honest"??? Is in fact just hype. No one can or should place such a label on themselves as there are always too many differing opinions, to lend it any validity. To be proud of yourself is one thing, to be arrogant, is nothing more than well, arrogant... Even if you're being totally honest.

    I'm not saying that this crew is not legite in any sense of the word. I enjoy the living shit out of a lot of the material that I've heard the last couple of years from these mentioned bands. I just hate it when a fresh face arrives with the idea that they have come up with a whole new twist on a dead ridden subject. Recent style, who's the latest sell-out, who's more authentic, who's doing something different, etc... "



    We are not being arrogant or even proud of ourselves . Panda is simply stating that we live the life . We are the ones that Tour , Book shows , Put out Vinyl ( not cd-rs not cds) from local bands and manage to sell them out almost instantly .We have dont this for years and years , not to make money .Only because this is one of the things we love to do . Like us or not , Support us or not . Our bands will continue to Tour , put out records , sell records and be more than just typical "krab land bands".

  17. Blogger n.l. | 11:50 AM |  

    Lord Galvar made a great comment on my myspace... he mentioned that there are no rivalries, just a cultural separation between the different genres...

    Hey, you can't tell these kids to grow up... then I'd have to.

    heh. I'm the biggest kid I know...

  18. Anonymous Anonymous | 12:34 PM |  

    I love how RNLD is trying to come across as this low key guy who just keeps on livin the life. Truth be told, his arrogant ass is what keeps his "crew" seperate from others. He comes across as one thing here, but in reality his hatred for everything that is unlike him is why the great bands that he books and presses records for will not get the chance to be heard by the rest of you that may not buy into his philosophy.

  19. Blogger Kenny | 1:26 PM |  

    Punk Rock? Eat my shit and worry about yourself. Play your music and piss off! Shop at Mervyns, shop at Wal-Mart.....who gives a shit what your doing and go fuck yourself.......thats punk rock!
    The Filthies

  20. Blogger n.l. | 1:54 PM |  

    If people buy into Rnld's philosophy, what's wrong with that? I don't bash on Democrats and Republicans for having differing philosophies... Diversity rocks the music scene in Bakersfield. A big scene that is small compared to the rest of the world...

  21. Blogger n.l. | 1:55 PM |  

    I'm feeling a Ska King lecture coming on... Listen up all you boys and girls... he's a comin'...

  22. Anonymous Anonymous | 2:20 PM |  

    progressive punx!! well thanks for thinking about "it" (if that was what "it" was all about)I respect everyone for enduring a "panda" lecture/yodel . We ("progressive punks") aren't all as judgemental of other folks music and scenes as this article insinuates...we're just us (collectively) and other people aren't us, they are other people, they're uh... them. i used to make flyers for throatshot when i worked at kinko's, i don't remember ever thinking anything bad about them, thier musical affiliates, or much less them personally. i don't think everyone dislikes each other so much either really... i think it's just a cultural seperation more than a rivalry. i think panda was just feeling neglected, he has a weird sense of humor...he is a very entertaining dude to hang out with though... maybe you'll cross paths with him one day and see what i'm talking about...derko*of lord galvar

    p.s. support each other and make sure your out of town "friends" are treated fairly! we'll see you around.

  23. Blogger Matt | 2:41 PM |  

    Nice discussion. Silence is deadly!

    All this talk just made me misty and go into my Punk Rock Time Machine..

    ...1986, McFarland, CA.
    I was one of a small handfull of punk rock kids in our small city. I used to listen to Maximum Rock N' Roll from my crappy walkman, with wires sticking out to the ceiling to pick up reception from my bedroom all the way to KPFA in Berkeley.

    MRR was the greatest DIY / Punk radio show of all-time. The founder of MRR and host of the show was Tim Yohannon.

    He had a very soft-spoken voice, but played EVERYTHING that was sent into the show. I have some tapes collected from the shows I listened to. OLD punk stuff, that most of you have never heard of. Mind you, I was only 17 years old, so most of you weren't even embryos.

    Bands like: Problemfish, Ojo Seco (Spanish Hardcore!,) Extrem, Christ on Parade, Nazi Bitch and The Jews, etc...

    Funny moments were when the other DJ's would introduce themselves, then announce that they were going to play "10 minutes of just pure garbage," then rip into a song like "Rock Star Penis," by Problemfish (I wonder whatever happened to those guys?)

    This brings me back to what I just said... Tim Yohannon played everything that showed up on his desk.

    I had a band in high school, called (drum roll, please...) The Bleeding Iguanas!! I was the "1,2,3,4" drummer, who pounded harder than Peligro of DK. Yes we sucked, everyone sucked, but who cared? We were young and the janitors used to let us plug into schoolground power to rehearse at night in the quad.

    We recorded one of our shows, and sent it in to Tim at Maximum Rock n' Roll, hoping we'd get some airtime.

    The songlist was:
    1) Wannabe (anti-poseur song)
    2) FU (dedicated to Moammar Khadafi)
    3) La-La (I don't know what the hell this was about)
    4) House of The Rising Sun (Lol!!)
    5) Louie Louie (Black Flag Tribute)

    I listened for a few weeks, and didn't hear any of our shit, so I sent Tim a letter to see if he got it.

    Holy Shiznit!! I got a response!!!

    It said, "Hey Matt, we got the Bleeding Iguanans tape, thanks for sending it in. We loved the story about what your band teacher said about you guys, and we'll be playing it on air soon!-Tim Yohannon (MRR.)

    For a bit, we were local legends on campus, but the band didn't last long, and we graduated.. :(

    A few years later, still playing my sax in the summer, playing along to "Terminal Preppie" by DK, and discovering Fishbone, the rest is Bako ska history...

    **Tim Yohannon unfortunately lost his battle with cancer on April 3rd, 1998. Sad day for the punk rock community, and followers of the DIY credo.

    4/3/98 - The Day Punk Died.
    RIP, TY.

    Thank Ye, and enjoy your youth..

    Matt
    Mento Buru / Bleeding Iguanas

    Ps: One of these days I'm going to have to transfer those tapes to CD and pass 'em around for bible study.

    Pss: Buy Maximum Rock N' Roll's "Not So Quiet On The Western Front" on CD now. It was my vinyl youth bible along with "Double Nickles on The Dime," by The Minutemen.

    Alright, I'll shut the fuck up now..hehee...

  24. Anonymous Anonymous | 2:44 PM |  

    There is nothing and no one more punk than this guy. You can't compete. And yes, I am kidding.
    http://www.sonybmg.com.au/thehoff/

    Double-click the full "google video" on the right hand side of
    the screen to see the full video.

  25. Blogger n.l. | 2:45 PM |  

    Grandpappy Skadilious has spoken.

    'Bleeding Iguanas': There's a tragic punkness in such a title. Probably from the Central Valley heat making all the lizards bleed through their ears...

  26. Blogger dw | 4:15 PM |  

    Yes Matt, "The Minutemen"(1980's band)! I'm not here to be a Professor of Punk 101 at all,and we all have our music memory lane. 17 years old in 1986? I was 17 in 1976, and I remember the punk movements of the early 70's very well.The movie "New York Doll" is a touching documentary of Arthur "Killer" Kane, bass player for The New York Dolls (very very early 70's! ). Cool time-line is overviewed also! What is interesting(maybe kind of humorous) is music historians will conclude that there is a "punk" or anti-movement in all past generations of musicality. They even called Elvis a "punk" for his time! So who owns punkdom...who cares! I personally hate titles and labels. I do enjoy a band that's committed and convicted, no matter what they play.Makes for a great experience,whether it's punk or polka, funk or folka! I remember also, when Slim The Drifter first moved to L.A. after High School in the 70's. Wow, he was hangin out with The Germs, and he'd play us these bootleg live tapes! Amazing stuff! Oh well, rock on everyone! This is a cool blog N.L.! thanks-

  27. Blogger chingpea | 4:54 PM |  

    wow! just so much to be said, seen and heard...

  28. Anonymous RNLD | 6:22 PM |  

    'Bleeding Iguanas'

    I need to hear this .


    Thanx for the great comments everyone , i love you too .

  29. Anonymous RNLD | 6:24 PM |  

    Btw - Where did this Rivalry come from ? I never knew there was one .

  30. Anonymous Norma | 9:01 PM |  

    I desperately need to start a Bleeding Iguanas fan club and maybe even start a petition for a reunion. 1987? Where was I? Oh, yes, at McFarland High wondering what the hell that noise was the Bleeding Iguanas were making with those instruments. Certainly didn't sound like anything I'd ever heard before. And they certainly didn't dress like any kids I'd ever seen before. At least nobody in McFarland. Thank you for introducing little Myfa to the punk world Matt. hahahaha You guys were actually very good. And I always have admired your courage to follow your passions, whatever they have been at the moment. I can still picture you guys now~

  31. Anonymous Anonymous | 9:59 PM |  

    i stand by Panda, and his statements.

    thats why, i book diy punk/indie bands from all over the u.s.. to give them a place to play in front of kids who actually care about what they have to say, to sleep, to eat, and to get them to the next location on their tour. all money goes to the band.


    (shameless plug)
    dayafter booking:
    www.dayafter.cjb.net
    myspace.com/dayafterbooking


    - chris ybarra

  32. Anonymous Chase | 10:22 PM |  

    I didn't have time to read the whole thing but got the first half. Basically, as far as superiority of music goes... its reflective of peoples lifestyle choices in this case. If youre mainstream then you arent "punk" (fight the system but purchase their beer and cigarettes while youre at it!). Your choses lifestyle would have no meaning were you not to feel it superior to another persons (at least in this case where the style is consistent of what it is as opposed to, say Buddhism). I might say more later, but I'm hashing this out in a minute because I have to go.

  33. Anonymous Landen | 10:45 PM |  

    Dirty Spanglish= Our own thing...
    We don't like to label ourselves.


    "Punk"= "I hate George Bush and he looks like a chimpanzee, blah blah blah."

    Who wouldn't want more then 10 people at a show? Who cares if they don't give a crap about your music. You're "punk" right? Let em' F'ING RIOT!

    Give me a break.


    Coyotes are not wise.
    Sonic Death Monkeys are wise.
    And they know punk.

    www.myspace.com/sonicdeathmonkeysX

    sike.

  34. Blogger Rob Shock | 11:28 PM |  

    The only thing I hated about punk is all the jerks going around trying to argue what is and is not punk, as if their idea of punk was the rule and start having some sort of elitist attitude about it. Elitist attitudes is not punk.

    And just to be further hypocritical, trying to come up with creatives labels for different styles of punk is also not punk. Though when I'd tell people I'm in a punk band, I'd have to describe exactly what I'm talking about by saying that I'm not in the angry yelling punk or the crying about your upper middle class teenage life punk, but the more retro 50s rock turned up to 10 style punk.

  35. Blogger dw | 11:33 PM |  

    I will say that it is so cool to here punk memories from the 70's, 80's 90's 2006's ! Say's something about the musical movement huh? Hey, here's a good movie night-rent "New York Doll", Rude Boy"(1980) is cool too! let's start a groovy movie night blog...what's your's?

  36. Anonymous coyote | 12:25 AM |  

    Wise words by Coyote....

    "Punk and nostalgia do not belong in the same sentence. Unless it goes something like the sentence i just typed."

    - coyote

  37. Anonymous Anonymous | 7:12 AM |  

    a bold statement vs. blame game/ EGO contest?
    like i was saying, sometimes what someone is saying isn't directly in the words said...when he said "go to a real punk show" it meant more than the letters that formed the sentence literally...not that his (panda's) were the only "real punk shows" in existance etc. It was a statement of injustice happening.. there are some amazing shows happening right under some of your noses! pay attention! that is all!

    regarding the-
    "who's more punk"?, 70's punk etc.- it's tacky. i believe it's tacky and out of context. nobody was disrespecting pioneers of genres / as a matter of fact nobody was originally talking about them. tacky tacky.
    ick.

    ACKNOWLEDGE RONALD AND THE PANDA FOR YOUR OWN SAKES.

    derko* of lord galvar-

    p.s. i particularly enjoyed the brief lesson on "punk" from a computer within "dagny's coffee shop".

    pps. props to "bleeding iguanas"

  38. Anonymous Anonymous | 10:27 AM |  

    This is the best stuff to come across this site since the Nate Berg stories. I love this shit man!

  39. Anonymous Greg Goodsell | 5:46 AM |  

    Oh, some people consider me the "don" of Bakersfield punk, as I was into it way back in 1979 -- fat lot of good it does me now -- but the new breed of punkers acknowledge the fact -- GG

  40. Anonymous Mike C. | 1:31 PM |  

    Panda, we all know Strawberry is the most true punk rocker of Bakersfield.

  41. Anonymous Anonymous | 11:16 AM |  

    the truest of punks in town right now: the only dave that matters

    why? if you know him, you know why.

    hahahahaha

  42. Blogger n.l. | 11:34 AM |  

    I've met Dave a few times. He's a very cool cat, and knowledgable. And a vegetarian, I think.

  43. Anonymous SAKI | 6:28 PM |  

    I DISAGREE WITH ALL
    ESPECIALLY THE FASION PART
    PUNK ROCK IS A LIFE STYLE/ATTITUDE EXPRESSED THROUGH TUNES
    I FOR1 THINK THERE NEVER WAS A PUNK MOVEMENT HERE AND NEVER WILL BE.....BECAUSE GUYS LIKE THE ONES BELOW ME CARE MORE ABOUT THEY THINK POEPLE SHOULD LOOK LIKE OR SOUND LIKE RATHER KEEP YOUR MOUTH ON YOUR OWN FUCKING PLATE--
    BAKERSFIELD IS A JOKE WHEN IT COME TO A "MOVEMENT"
    A MOVEMENT SUPPORTS ONE ANOTHER AND DOESNT PUT UP BORDERS PR STANDARDS

    IM DONE FUCK ALL U FAKES

    -SAKI

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